-|| WWE Unforgiven Discussion/Prediction Thread : September 18th 2005 ||-

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#101 garysibs8
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Hey guys Cena is a favourite to win but sooner or later he is going to lose because

1. The General manager hates him.

2. He has a match in almost every week.

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#102 andremafia
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I hope Ric Flair wins the IC title against Carlito, he is a very bad Wrestler, he only know how to do a DDT and a Suplex.....

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#103 hbk91
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-- Thanks to Scott Sandry who passed along that WWE has added more matches on their Corporate.WWE.com page for the Unforgiven PPV, which have not yet been announced.

The following is from corporate.WWE.com:

This year’s Unforgiven Pay-Per-View will feature WWE Champion John Cena defending his title against gold medalist Kurt Angle. Also, Ric Flair will battle Carlito for the Intercontinental Title, Shawn Michaels will take on Chris “The Masterpiece” Masters and Edge will battle Matt Hardy in another physical match that is sure to thrill the Oklahoma City crowd.
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#104 JML897
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The fact that Chris Masters is in the PPV is sad -- the fact that he is facing HBK is appalling.
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#105 hbk91
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The fact that Chris Masters is in the PPV is sad -- the fact that he is facing HBK is appalling.
JML897
Yeah tell me about it. Now Michaels will end up staying face and end up jobbing to the likes of Masters. Okay so they're trying to rise up the status of new talent these days but making Michaels job to Hogan in the last PPV and making him face Chris Masters in the next one says something...
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#106 Kitanya
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Once the card is finalized, I will CAW the people who aren't in DOR2, and sim it. I've always wanted to sim something.
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#107 hbk91
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Nice. ;)

It'll be interesting to see who ends up winning in your sim and then in the real PPV.

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#108 KevyR
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  • I doubt Ric will win the IC Title from Carlito cuz I smell Triple H costing him his chances.
  • I think HBK will win clean against Chris Masters.
  • Kurt Angle will be our new Champ
  • Trish and Ashley will kick the living hell outta of Torrie and Candice
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#109 Canuck3000
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  • I doubt Ric will win the IC Title from Carlito cuz I smell Triple H costing him his chances.
  • I think HBK will win clean against Chris Masters.
  • Kurt Angle will be our new Champ
  • Trish and Ashley will kick the living hell outta of Torrie and Candice
KevyR
Why would he do that?
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#110 welshcaza12
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why do i think Cena's gunna lose ...
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#111 The_Last_Ride
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I hope cena loses , no disrespect to cena cause i like him , but angle deserves it and is a better champ
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#112 dRehkJY
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Cena has held it for way longer than he should have. I predict Angle winning
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#113 hbk91
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[QUOTE="KevyR"]
  • I doubt Ric will win the IC Title from Carlito cuz I smell Triple H costing him his chances.
  • I think HBK will win clean against Chris Masters.
  • Kurt Angle will be our new Champ
  • Trish and Ashley will kick the living hell outta of Torrie and Candice
Canuck3000
Why would he do that?

Well they were both set to face each other at Unforgiven and that never happened. Oh and a few articles have mentioned HHH getting involved with Michaels and Flair somehow...
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#114 shoot_em_up123
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Cena has held it for way longer than he should have. I predict Angle winningdRehkJY

So do I. I can't stand Cena as a champ. I hope Angle can take the title.

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#115 nellyg619
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[QUOTE="dRehkJY"]Cena has held it for way longer than he should have. I predict Angle winningshoot_em_up123

So do I. I can't stand Cena as a champ. I hope Angle can take the title.

I can't stand Cena as champ as well

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#116 Rage11
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Angle better win. The fact that he's most likely to win the title at Unforgiven is probably the only reason I'll be ordering the ppv.
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#117 Kotenks
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Atleast wait until you hear the rest of the card.
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#118 Dark_NoobSaibot
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Cena is a good champ
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#119 shoot_em_up123
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Cena is a good champDark_NoobSaibot

How can you think that??

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#120 andremafia
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Yes Angle should win to have more gold:D Cena is the champ just to advertise his Album...
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#121 keiblerfan69
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card updated.
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#122 The_Dude14
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Man, Unforgiven is not looking as promising as it did...

Intercontiential Title Match: Carlito(C) Vs. Ric Flair: Flair is ancient and possibly senile and Carlito still needs work in the ring, this match has a small chance of being good, but it is more than likely a sleeper
Steel Cage Match: Matt Hardy Vs. Edge w/ Lita: Of all the gimmick matches they could have gone with, the Cage match is probably the worst. Match has potential, but I would've liked to see something else
The Big Show Vs. Gene Snitzky: Flair vs Carlito has the potential to be a sleeper, this match has a guarantee. When Snitzky looks fast in comparison to his opponent, you've got problems.

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#123 The_Last_Ride
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Man, Unforgiven is not looking as promising as it did...

Intercontiential Title Match: Carlito(C) Vs. Ric Flair: Flair is ancient and possibly senile and Carlito still needs work in the ring, this match has a small chance of being good, but it is more than likely a sleeper
Steel Cage Match: Matt Hardy Vs. Edge w/ Lita: Of all the gimmick matches they could have gone with, the Cage match is probably the worst. Match has potential, but I would've liked to see something else
The Big Show Vs. Gene Snitzky: Flair vs Carlito has the potential to be a sleeper, this match has a guarantee. When Snitzky looks fast in comparison to his opponent, you've got problems.

The_Dude14

when was the snitsky match confirmed?

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#124 hbk91
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Last night on RAW.
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#125 nellyg619
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This doesn't look that good of a PPV. No wonder we r gettin this for free
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#126 hbk91
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Yeah they literally announced the whole card last night which was also a disappointment...
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#127 Dark_NoobSaibot
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Freedom of speech works wonders, also I think John is cute so pfft. =)

[QUOTE="Dark_NoobSaibot"]Cena is a good champshoot_em_up123

How can you think that??

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#128 shoot_em_up123
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Freedom of speech works wonders, also I think John is cute so pfft. =)
[QUOTE="shoot_em_up123"]

[QUOTE="Dark_NoobSaibot"]Cena is a good champDark_NoobSaibot

How can you think that??

I did not have a thing wrong with it. I just think he is not a good champ and other deserve it a lot more than him. Like Shelton Benjamin or RVD.

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#129 Kotenks
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From WWE.com

"

September 20th 2005


The WWE has made a great purchase this week. Though Brock Lesnar was not signed on, the WWE has told him they will release Paul London to obtain him. London and Jericho was standing next to Vince as he said this. Jericho said that Brock wasn’t so good to release people for him. Brock signed once Y2J was fired on the spot.

Dec. 20th 2005

Chris Jericho signed with TNA. The WWE doesn’t believe this to importance, as it will buy TNA in two months. TNA officials were quoted as telling HHH to “**** off” during the planned meeting.

March 20th 2005

The WWE is sad to say good-bye after such a long time. In a short of ironic twist, TNA bought the WWE and fired HHH. Vince killed himself right on the spot. Shane owned the company for a day and decided to sell it to TNA. Thus now Shane and other WWE officials are shocked at Vince’s death.

"
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#130 keiblerfan69
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haha but what does this have to do with Unforigven?
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#131 hbk91
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card updated.keiblerfan69
Thanks. I'll just add the promo pictures then animate them to the homepage.
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#132 hbk91
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Finished updating the pictures. Check out the first post to see them.

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#133 dRehkJY
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Yes Angle should win to have more gold:D Cena is the champ just to advertise his Album...andremafia



Poorly may I add. WWE does not care about the IWC anymore :cry:
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#134 jklbgdgklbnbn
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Cena will win because he is the best!!!!!!! Matt will beat Edge, Ric Flair will beat Carlito, and HBK will beat Chris Masters!
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#135 The_Last_Ride
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I hope edge wins the cage match...
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#136 JML897
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Cena will win because he is the best!!!!!!! Matt will beat Edge, Ric Flair will beat Carlito, and HBK will beat Chris Masters!jklbgdgklbnbn


Is your name Mark, by any chance?
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#137 hbk91
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Well when you see Hardy losing to Snitsky and Conway in a row well that is saying something. It's not looking good for Hardy right now.
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#138 The_Last_Ride
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Well when you see Hardy losing to Snitsky and Conway in a row well that is saying something. It's not looking good for Hardy right now.hbk91

I dont care about that , i care all that lita edge and hardy crap to be over!

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#139 KevyR
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Well this is going to be one of Unforgiven worst PPV. The only match that is worthy watching is the WWE Championship match, and maybe the Steel Cage match between Hardy and Edge.
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#141 tripleryan2004
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Well this is going to be one of Unforgiven worst PPV. The only match that is worthy watching is the WWE Championship match, and maybe the Steel Cage match between Hardy and Edge.KevyR

Steel Cage matches are always bad quality, unless you have two superstars that know how to use it. But, Edge and Matt? Come on... They could've at least thought of something else. Anyhow, the WWE Championship isn't looking THAT great... I mean, ever since that show where John Cena was offering a back-hitting, I've been kind of leaning on the opposite side of him. But, match-wise, if it involves Kurt Angle, it's likely to become a good match.

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[QUOTE="jklbgdgklbnbn"]Cena will win because he is the best!!!!!!! Matt will beat Edge, Ric Flair will beat Carlito, and HBK will beat Chris Masters!JML897


Is your name Mark, by any chance?

No, my name is Cody.

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[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="jklbgdgklbnbn"]Cena will win because he is the best!!!!!!! Matt will beat Edge, Ric Flair will beat Carlito, and HBK will beat Chris Masters!jklbgdgklbnbn



Is your name Mark, by any chance?

No, my name is Cody.

lmfao, self owned?

jk :P.

i hope cena loses, the WWE can't possibly see themselves relying on cena to be a draw anymore :cry:. hopefully edge will beat matt, cuz it would be dumb if matt won. IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER ANYMORE! edge and lita aren't together anymore and people have seen lita and matt be together out in public.

i hope flair wins and then flair flops the next night to shelton...or rvd...........of gobbledy go0ker.

god i am not looking forward to hbk vs. masters. sure hbk is so good that he can make a match with hogan a 4 star extravaganze...but it's chris master....who cares.

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#144 JML897
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[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="jklbgdgklbnbn"]Cena will win because he is the best!!!!!!! Matt will beat Edge, Ric Flair will beat Carlito, and HBK will beat Chris Masters!jklbgdgklbnbn



Is your name Mark, by any chance?

No, my name is Cody.



Ah, sorry. You just sound like a Mark I know.

Oh, how I love using stupid puns. :|
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#145 mja2k3
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I think that cage match will be great. I still remember that steel cage match between E&C and the Hardyz that was a great match. Maybe it could happen at Unforgiven.
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#146 shoot_em_up123
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I think that cage match will be great. I still remember that steel cage match between E&C and the Hardyz that was a great match. Maybe it could happen at Unforgiven.mja2k3

I disagree, it would have been a lot better in a TLC match or something like that.

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#147 KevyR
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Edge and Kurt Angle had one hella of a cage matches during the early post-draft era of Smackdown! I think that was the best cage match on SD! to date. That match is available on WWE Jukebox, if anyone plan on watching that.
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#148 Norg
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WWE Title Match:

John Cena(C) Vs. Kurt Angle-WINNER KURT ANGLE

- - -

Intercontiential Title Match:

Carlito(C) Vs. Ric Flair-WINNDER RICK FLAIR

- - -

Steel Cage Match:

Matt Hardy Vs. Edge w/ Lita-WINNER MATT HARDY

- - -

The Big Show Vs. Gene Snitzky-WINNER SNITSKY

- - -

Shawn Michaels Vs. Chris Masters-WINNER HBK

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#149 andremafia
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I hope Ric Flair wins, but I don't think I will see the master of Woows with a title again...
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#150 seve15
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I hope Ric Flair wins, but I don't think I will see the master of Woows with a title again...andremafia

yeah, i hope he wins too, but i think he might win, and then drop the title back to Carlito, within 2 weeks